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 Strength stat and Melee damage 
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Original Mi law wrote:
LiftingNerd wrote:
its been like that ever since reconstruction str does nothing for regular melee hits really
only combat moves and spin gain any dmg bonus from it



False, this was nerfed several weeks after reconstruction because I killed every lv 70 in the game 1-2 hits, an made everyone quit playing, some never to return (bloodysebaz, hard body etc.) And I'm pretty sure it was nerfed even more after that too, as he had to keep making adjustment because of people emailing Ej that I was still way too OP.


Yup restructure was what made stats matter. I remember shaka zulu was literally 1 shotting the whole game since lethal and str stacked. MANY and MOST melees were 2 hitting the game (except darkwars, those were 1 hitting. they always been sort of op)

Heck even AFTER the str tone down melees like jacinda were still owning everyone with spin.

Here is ligtingnerd on his warlock Frost Nova getting owned with SPIN PVP and retired that account that very night lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbDzFnWYsy4&t=290s

And Jacinda never even had a Vexar Hammer. lol

I know ej recently (in the last few weeks) made the diminishing return LESS than it was to make str better)

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Original Mi law wrote:
LiftingNerd wrote:
its been like that ever since reconstruction str does nothing for regular melee hits really
only combat moves and spin gain any dmg bonus from it



False, this was nerfed several weeks after reconstruction because I killed every lv 70 in the game 1-2 hits, an made everyone quit playing, some never to return (bloodysebaz, hard body etc.) And I'm pretty sure it was nerfed even more after that too, as he had to keep making adjustment because of people emailing Ej that I was still way too OP.


no that didnt have anything to do with strength at all back than


even with 20 str u would have done same dmg

i know i tested... i was 20 str 91 agil rest cons after reconstrucction
so i was able to outhit anyone ingame and still easily 2-3shot them



THEN ej added the 40% dmg reduction because mages cried they got 2-3 shotted (meanwhile melees were getting 2-3 spelled aswell)

and suddenly melees/mages survived around 4-6 spells/attacks from eachother

but mages still cried so Weapons got hit by a NERF Vexar axe back than had 3000damage Dirus sword 2400

so melee weapons got hit by a nerf and went down Vexar axe went down to 2200damage dirus sword down to around 1400

suddenly melees dies in 4-6 spells geared mages tanked 7-9hits


However Mages STILL complained

so ej Squished down Armor, weapon stats

so then dirus sword had around 1100 or 1200damage

Now mages 4-7 spelled geared melees 2-4 for none warriors

while they could survive 7-9 hits if geared properly

HOWEVER mages still complained

melee weapons got hit with another nerf

to what we have now aka dirus sword with 900ish damage


and now its to the point where a melee CANNOT kill a mage without breaker or dispell or chaos removing the mages buffs
I state however that is IF THE MAGE KNOWS HOW TO PLAY AND IS GEARED ONPAR WITH THE MELEE HES FIGHTING


thing with melee damage is you need to have higher AC than the melees weapon

once you do melee damage becomes more or less so sad


right now when i pvp bleed/poison/fragor is 75% of a melees dps

meanwhile the actual melee hits are around 25%



PS sebaz/hardbody quit because his 5000 investment went sour and didnt give him a massive upperhand he needed in pvp to win after the update


Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:21 pm
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eh.... i would never pvp a paladin like that....

id go into a area where the paladin woudnt be able to get out of poison cloud then beam the livin sh*t outta him lol... while not transing

whoevers pvpin in that video clearly isnt me lol

but i dont deny i have played that char


but if that was me pvpin it would looked entirely diffrent


if your intressted in some videos where I actually pvped

here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fijZRJzmWJU&t=846s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlS1zhLty4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-BAQV39rpE&t=299s


Full pvp weekend last year

Day 1 captains link tried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omlJneigAe4&t=3s
captains link logged off for the remaining 2 days

Day 2 my link pvping monkey hangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9M0ENWRS4I

Day 3 my link vs monkey hangers again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDT_lrZ4H4


heres one in slowmotion

had to slow it down to see what actaully happends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIcOwuQXbWQ


Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:27 pm
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Who was ur melee when reconstucture update released? Or you talking about oggys dw? Who still couldn't touch me on original Mi, nobody could lol, to the point when I logged on everyone jumped on square an wouldn't leave, I had to get rid of all my gear an quit.


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Not trying to sound like a bad a**, that's just what it was.. Clearly the game was broken, and dark pallys super op in best gear possible as it was, thanks to st. Ruglin not being lv 65 an gave me all of his gear just so he could try it out lol, but oggy had brought me to his house on his dark war specifically to test damage with dif stats and every thing he tried I still did like 2-3x his damage..and I'm pretty sure he was using vexar axe. That is what's making me wonder what dark war he had that was owning everyone in 1 hit bcuz I was doing the most damage of all melees at that time.


Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:51 pm
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Original Mi law wrote:
Who was ur melee when reconstucture update released? Or you talking about oggys dw? Who still couldn't touch me on original Mi, nobody could lol, to the point when I logged on everyone jumped on square an wouldn't leave, I had to get rid of all my gear an quit.



erhm

i returned like 5days before reconstruction update after a 7-8year break

leveled up my barbarian (oggyersrs) and became third 70 barb ingame

had no gear to speak of at all was pvpin in salbs omni claymore, spirit leather etc


if your talking about a darkwar im not sure who


my last darkwar was Anthrax who i made right after the Lucky kill wipe

and anthrax at level 40 wiped the floor with anyone below 60

only players that gave any real challange were Vos users


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Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:03 pm
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Oh well not bad considering the change in level gap power, I thought you meant you were 1 shotting all the level 70s.


Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:06 pm
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Original Mi law wrote:
Who was ur melee when reconstucture update released? Or you talking about oggys dw? Who still couldn't touch me on original Mi, nobody could lol, to the point when I logged on everyone jumped on square an wouldn't leave, I had to get rid of all my gear an quit.


yeah it was kappa. this is a video of him losing his house. https://youtu.be/ioTBL7xbBDY

(ps our link took 3+ of his link houses on new pvp server since release) lol

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kappa is eric lol aka memnon sutan bushin


Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:08 pm
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