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 Base hp and class balance 
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[quote="LiftingNerd"]4%hp weapon (rune swd, vex)

this is a lowend setup tho

now lets look at a highend setup

4%hp weapon (rune swd, vex)
0% 2x amp/ac cron warriors 2x amp/ac warriors
12% hp base helm
5% hpbase armor
8% hp base fighter boots
5% dirus cape
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34% hp bonus

Mages
12%hp base staff
12%hp base wand
36% 1x AMD adepts 6%hp, 2x super adepts 24%hp 1x super vos 6% hp
12% hp base helm
5% hpbase armor
8% hp base fighter boots
5% dirus cape
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90% hp bonus[/quote]




how are fighter boots high end???

edit

also they are 9% base not 8


Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:23 pm
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Don't forget about hp% base from pvp points. Some people out there with an extra 10% or higher from pvp skill points


Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:43 pm
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Feral Child wrote:
Don't forget about hp% base from pvp points. Some people out there with an extra 10% or higher from pvp skill points

I have 10% on loki. HP is the ONLY useful pvp skill to use really. Ej made a post last year about revamping the pvp points system but nothing was ever done.

Would be nice to add some NEW and UNIQUE skills/spells to pvp points.

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Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:52 pm
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[quote="Loki"][quote="Feral Child"]Don't forget about hp% base from pvp points. Some people out there with an extra 10% or higher from pvp skill points[/quote]
I have 10% on loki. HP is the ONLY useful pvp skill to use really. Ej made a post last year about revamping the pvp points system but nothing was ever done.
Would be nice to add some NEW and UNIQUE skills/spells to pvp points.[/quote]


Yes add new Pvp skills so Loki can get them nerfed again, sounds like a plan!


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Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:34 am
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I see this discussion is pretty much over and no consensus has been reached as per the usual. Hopefully at least Ej will review the topic and think on the matter.


Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:50 pm
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[quote="Loki"]which means nothing when melees have daggers eating through all that hp anyway and melees can get 80% amp[/quote]


MELEES CAN?? You mean warriors, your lucky to max out with 45-50 amp in full amp gear and rings on a 70 pally(and let's be honest, who actually has full amp props on everything), I can't with u Joki always tryna keep melee on the poop end of the stick making them sound great lmao, let's not forget how little dmg daggers actually add, only benefit from them is. Speed and hp steal, now let's talk about damage on wands and who's eating away who's hp..


Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:48 am
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melees can stack much more armor than mages your point is moot at this time.


Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:03 pm
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Realist wrote:
melees can stack much more armor than mages your point is moot at this time.


Druids/clerics can get the same amount of AC a ranger/darkwar can.

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Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:28 pm
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ok? they are also tank type classes


Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:35 pm
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Realist wrote:
ok? they are also tank type classes



My bad. I forgot Clerics were meant to tank. My bad

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