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Op was talking about level 50 pvp. I was referring to 70 pvp.

At 50 I don't know how the pvp is since I don't play the pvp server.

Mages may be better at those levels, but the point I was making is that it's a whole different game at 70 and max gear.


Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:15 am
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Feral Child wrote:
I'd like to test your theories because I still don't see how a vex wizard is out tanking a vex pally or warrior.

If you're talking about dark wars or rangers that would make more sense.

There are too many variables at play for a lot of the claims you are making to get consistent data.



they do... i happen to have a vexar geared wizard

well back when adept wand gave +3 i most definently tanked More than any melee


but now that i have to use +2 it got abit nerfed


but im still definently more tanky then melees



its jsut that in pvp melees block other melees

which makes them "seem" more tanky


Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:00 am
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Lol mind molecule was a floor at whenever dts was around. The o my thing he has going is noxa and super Bob. Even max max geared he used to get rekt on mm and Insta ragelog back on oggy.

Wizards are def tank but so are melees. Lower noxa.

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Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:46 am
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[quote="Loki"]Wizards are def tank but so are melees. Lower noxa.[/quote]

Noxa is irrelevant to all my testing, as I'm a paladin also with noxa, so wizards Noxa doesn't even affect me, just shows how even more overpowered they are to other classes.


Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:47 am
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Loki wrote:
Lol mind molecule was a floor at whenever dts was around. The o my thing he has going is noxa and super Bob. Even max max geared he used to get rekt on mm and Insta ragelog back on oggy.

Wizards are def tank but so are melees. Lower noxa.

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Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 am
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as seen in those videos if it wasnt for chaos/dispel

i woudnt even need to move of trans vs that dmg....


Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:24 am
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Never even seen half these new guys out here lol his trans game is weak tho, is that the damage all melees are doing to wizards on prime now?


Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:35 am
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well the gear my wizard has is really bad proped gear

vexar hat missing 12 hp
staff missing 12 hp etc

hes missing more than 24% base hp from staff, helm etc


with vos and the missing hp base id expect the dmg to be about 30-35% less



and i can say this i suck as a mage pvper

im primarily a melee player



and yea his trans pvp as a melee is horrible

if i wasnt getting teamed by loki(proof) in that video i woulda just stood still and toed him

he will be hitting for 8-12% a hit

when chaos goes off it skyrockets to 30-40% a hit


and this is the issue with chaotic/dispel brings extreme imbalance to pvp


Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:43 am
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guy says 8-12% a hit but still meds at 70-80% in every video and a constant floormat. I remember one week he was like 4 an 15 deaths and that was with vos rofl. Dude logs off to oggy ASAP when he gets turned into a vexar shag rug.

but since you want to bring up old videos here is liftingnerf losing his house to captain on his old char he retired that very day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioTBL7xbBDY (Kappa loses house to captain)

The guy THINKS hit amulets work as reditus amulets.

And when his warlock was retired by SPIN PVP AFTER it was nerfed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbDzFnWYsy4

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Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:30 am
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funny you post 2 videos which contains character that i dont pvp on and one that i dont even play or have access to lol


Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:52 am
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